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Inspiring Messages from the Legends

We reprinted interviews from Pygmalius, a quarterly magazine published by Bunkyo Gakki from 1984 to 1989. During that time, Pygmalius magazine conducted exclusive interviews with some of the greatest classical musicians of different generations around the world.
We hope you enjoy the timeless and universal philosophy of the legends, their thoughts on music and their inspiring messages.

No.18 Jaime Laredo & Sharon Robinson

Published on 1st April 1988, Pygmalius Issue 21
■Profile of Jaime Laredo

Born in Cochabamba, Bolivia, he began learning music at the age of five and went to North America in 1948 and learnt under Antonio de Grassi. He was also introduced to Frank Houser before moving to Cleveland, where he studied with Josef Gingold in 1953, and then at the Curtis Institute of Music under Ivan Galamian.

A highly acclaimed recital at Carnegie Hall in October 1960 helped to shape his subsequent career. In the following year in 1961, he performed at the Royal Albert Hall in London. Since then he has performed with a number of prominent orchestras in Europe and the USA (Boston Symphony Orchestra, Chicago Symphony Orchestra, New York Philharmonic, Cleveland Orchestra, Philadelphia Orchestra, London Symphony Orchestra, Royal Philharmonic and Syracuse Symphony Orchestra).

He is also active as a viola player and chamber music performer, and recorded alongside Isaac Stern, Yo-Yo Ma and Emanuel Ax as a piano quartet.
He also performs as the Kalichstein-Laredo-Robinson Trio, and his recording with Glenn Gould is also well received. He has been the conductor for the Vermont Symphony Orchestra since 1999. He is currently a professor at Indiana University (Jacobs School of Music).


■Profile of Sharon Robinson

Sharon Robinson made her New York debut in 1974, performing in chamber music recitals with violinist Jaime Laredo and pianist Samuel Sanders.
As a soloist, she has performed with professional orchestras throughout the USA, including Los Angeles, Washington, Dallas, Baltimore, Philadelphia and San Francisco, and with renowned orchestras around the world, including the London Symphony Orchestra, the Helsinki Symphony Orchestra and the Tonhalle-Orchester Zürich.
In 1977, she formed the Kalichstein-Laredo-Robinson Trio with her husband, violinist Jaime Laredo, and pianist Joseph Kalichstein, and also built her success as a chamber music performer. As an educator, she has taught at the Juilliard School, Indiana University and the Cleveland Institute of Music, where she made a significant contribution to the development of future generations.

1.  About the Instruments

―The title of our booklet is ‘Me and My Instrument’, so could you please start by telling us about your instruments?


Jamie Laredo (‘J’):My instrument is a Stradivarius, a violin he made in 1717.


ーHow long have you been playing with that instrument?


J:Since 1969. It was obtained from Mr Jacques Français in New York.


ーAnd yours? (to Sharon Robinson)


Sharon Robinson (’S'):My instrument is a copy of a Stradivarius cello made by John Lott, and it has the title of 'Duke of Marlborough'. I got it in 1972 and have been using it ever since.


J : To briefly describe my instrument, there was a banker and collector in Los Angeles and this was one of a Stradivarius quartet he owned. He had a quartet of Stradivari instruments, consisting of two violins, a viola and a cello.
It was stored in a gallery in Sacramento, but after the death of the owner, it was put up for sale and the quartet were separated from the other. When I bought it, the tone was wonderful and I liked it immediately, but the sound was closed. Well, the instrument hadn't been played for about 50 years, so I spent the first two years or so opening up the sound. Day in, day out!
I like this Strad because it has a very beautiful tone, but it's also very powerful. It helps as I perform in big halls.


ー It’s amazing to hear such history. Do you (‘S’) have any interesting stories to share with us?


S:Yes, my instrument was passed down to me from my teacher. I think it was used by someone who was in Los Angeles before that. And the interesting story is that the tailpiece of the cello has the initials painted on it, which are "S.L.", just like mine. Of course my initial was different then and I only became “S.L.” after our marriage, so it was an interesting coincidence. I felt there was something special about the coincidence that the previous owner had the same initials as I do now.


J:As mentioned before, her instrument is a copy of the Stradivarius cello known as the Duke of Marlborough. But incredibly, the instrument is so well-made that everyone seems to think it is a real Stradivarius when they see it or hear it played. So some people think she actually has a Strad.


ー So you are very fond of it?


S:Yes, very much so. But I’d still love to acquire a Strad in the future.


J: I wonder if someone could buy her one. I don’t think I can afford it by myself.

2.  How I Became a Musician

ーNext, could you tell us a bit about the two of you? Firstly, how did you get involved with musical instruments?


J:I was born in Bolivia, South America and when I was five years old, my father took me to a string quartet concert. The sound of the violin then was very beautiful and I liked it. So I asked my father if I could take lessons and play the violin. My father bought me a violin as a Christmas present and I was very happy.


ーSo it was then you started playing an instrument?


J:Yes, at that time Bolivia had been going through the First World War and many Europeans were fleeing the war. My teacher was one of them and was an Italian who taught in Vienna. He was the first teacher I had, and he was not an ordinary teacher but a high caliber one. Looking back, I think I was fortunate.


ーUntil what age did you stay with that teacher?


J:Unfortunately, I was only with that teacher for about a year. My family moved to the USA, so it was short. I continued with another teacher in San Francisco and then studied at the Curtis Institute of Music in Philadelphia.


ーWhat instruments did you use at that time?


J:I started with a 1/2 violin, skipped the 3/4 and switched to a 4/4 when I was seven. Of course, the 1/2 instrument wasn't that well made. I still have it at home though. I don't really remember what I had when I changed to 4/4. I used to play a Lorenzo Storioni, and I got my first Stradivarius in 1960. That instrument was also made in 1717, like the one I have now. So the one I have now is my second Strad. After I parted with it, Salvatore Accardo used it, and then I heard that a German doctor bought it about 12 years ago.


ーThere must have been a big difference between Storioni and Stradivarius.


J:Yes, it made a huge difference and I can't even describe it. However when I switched from the first to the second Stradivarius, there wasn't such a big difference in sound. But the quality of the tone was different, and my current instrument has a very beautiful high register.


―When did you (‘S’) start playing music?


S:In my case, my parents were musicians, so from a very young age I was always listening to music and going to cello and orchestra concerts. That's how I came to love music so much, and that's when my musical foundations were laid. I started playing the cello when I was five, and it was a size 1/8. The instrument was old and a very beautiful instrument. From the age of 16, I learnt under Irving Klein at the North Carolina School of the Arts, with Gabor Rejto at the University of Southern California,, and with Casals at the Marlboro School.


― I recently had the opportunity to interview cellist Lynn Harrell, who told me that in his opinion, "I started playing the cello at the age of nine, which is a good age physically, rather than starting at an earlier age, which might not be ideal.”
What is your take on it?


S:I would rather start at a young age, to train your fingers as far as flexibility is concerned. And also to play softly!


J : Casals has an incredibly powerful sound on any instrument, but he started when he was very young!

3. About the Bows

- Can you tell us about the bows you are currently using?


J:I have several bows, but now I mostly use Simon bows. I also have some Old Hill violin bows. And for modern ones, I have Johannes Finkel bows. I like the Finkel bows very much and I have two violin bows and three cello ones.


S:In my case, the one I’m using this time is made by a guy from South America called Francisco Torres, who used to make them in New York, though now he's back in Brazil. I have two bows made by him.


ー Mr Laredo, you are currently using Simon, but have you ever used Peccatte or Tourte?


J : I used to use them a lot. I've also used a few Tourte and they were great.


ーIs Simon the right match for your Strad?


J: I think it suits my Strad. It's a strong and light bow, though I’m not certain what the exact weight is.

4. Our Activities

ーWhat are your future plans, Mr Laredo?


J:I'm here in Japan at the moment, but I primarily play with the trio and perform all over the world. My current trio with Mr Kalichstein has been together for about 11 years, but we sometimes work separately, and we play about 40 performances per year with the trio. I also release records, CDs, etc. and teach.


ーDo you work mainly in the States?


J : Yes, we have a home in Vermont but we mostly perform there and in New York.


S:In addition to that, he teaches at the Curtis Institute of Music and I teach at Juilliard, so it's quite varied in times like that.


ーHow many times have you been to Japan?


J : This is her first time, but this is my second visit to Japan. The first time was last year at I played with the NHK Symphony Orchestra at Suntory Hall, and I also played with Isaac Stern and his associates.


ーWhat is your impression of Japan, as a first time visitor here? (to S)


S:It feels like my second home. The food is delicious and the people are very kind and wonderful. Japanese food is very popular in New York, and sushi is very popular.


J:I came here last year and I really liked the yakitori. (Laugh)


ーWhat do you keep in mind when you think about and play music?


J:I don't think about it philosophically, but what musicians tend to do when they get to find out something that they didn't know about yesterday, they would then learn more and go for the next thing, and once when they learn it, they would always be learning and thinking about the next thing. I just happened to think of Mr Horszowski , who played with Mr Casals, who is a 95-year-old pianist, and he said he is still learning different things one after another. You can go back in history, too. I think it's very rare in other professions to be able to learn things that can go deeper and deeper. I believe that music resonates with everything about people, whether it's joy, anger or despair, and it encompasses everything.

ー That’s what Lynn Harrell said as well. What is your opinion? (‘S’)


S:In the summer, the Marlboro Music Festival is being held. I heard performances by Casals, Alexander Schneider and others there, and I really think that music is not about something that you studied, but something that is expressed through the human heart and created through communication with the audience. I think it is an excellent language.
The Marlboro Music Festival, which is now run by Serkin instead of Casals, is really wonderful, and it's a great gathering that attracts many young people. We also grew up with it. It's not about practice or study and it's about the connection with others and deepening the communication and that's how you develop your music.

5. What Music Means to Us

ーYou are both musicians and married to each other - has this affected your performance in any way?



J:I played some chamber music with Yo-Yo Ma and his group the other day, for example. Yo-Yo Ma is a wonderful person, an outstanding performer and a dear friend of ours. But the communication is very different compared to when I play with her. Sometimes I struggle harder with her than with any other cellist.


S:For Brahms’s Double Concerto (Violin and Cello), I never played with any other players apart from him. Once, when he was asked if he could work with a cellist other than me, he declined after some consideration. In music, it works like that sometimes.


ーWhat does the instrument mean to you?


J:I don’t know about others, but in my opinion it is a product of emotion. It's exactly the same when people fall in love with someone and get married and for me, I love my current instrument the most.


ーFinally, do you have a message for amateur players in Japan?


J&S:We would like to pay my respect to those who are enjoying music in Japan at the moment. We also teach Japanese people and they have very great sensibility.
We are very honored and happy to come to Japan again after a year's absence and to have the Japanese audience listening to our performances.


ーThank you very much.

Photo:Sharon Robinson & Jaime Laredo ©Christian Steiner(from Sharon Robinson official website: http://sharonrobinson-cellist.com/#Press)